Okay, I have a problem, I made a bet with my friend and now if I don't build my own system by the end of June, I'm out 50 bucks. So I need a source of information through which I can mooch knowledge from. Anyone?
Come on...
Please?
Building your own system
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I suggest buying the parts you want, and then getting help from a friend who knows about computers. Even if you think you know enough, you will need an extra pair of hands.
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StonerGuy2000, how much do you know about hardware? i mean, have you at least installed cards or anything in your pc? if you've got SOME clue about how to do stuff, the rest is easy. tom's hardware guide is another acceptable start.
oh yeah, when buying parts, there's a lot of good spots out there, but usually i find the small shops have the best prices (but you lose out on warranties, etc.)
if you're in toronto, then you may want to check out the college and spadina area - freakin' cheap prices! otherwise, a site like ncix.com might help.
anyway, folks, perhaps we can start him off with a list of things he'd need to buy? (emphasis on need)
- motherboard
- processor
- chip fan
- ram
- hard drive
- floppy
- cd-rom/cd-r/dvd-rom/dvd-r/whatever
- case
- power supply
- graphics card (depending on if there's onboard graphics/sound on your mb - ick)
- sound card (see graphics card - ick)
- cables (most cables you'll need are included in whatever you buy)
- nic (or modem if you're in a spot with no broadband or don't have access to a network)
- monitor
- speakers
- mouse
- keyboard
am i missing any necessities, folks?
putting it all together isn't too hard. strangely enough, those manuals help. sometimes, anyway.
oh yeah, when buying parts, there's a lot of good spots out there, but usually i find the small shops have the best prices (but you lose out on warranties, etc.)
if you're in toronto, then you may want to check out the college and spadina area - freakin' cheap prices! otherwise, a site like ncix.com might help.
anyway, folks, perhaps we can start him off with a list of things he'd need to buy? (emphasis on need)
- motherboard
- processor
- chip fan
- ram
- hard drive
- floppy
- cd-rom/cd-r/dvd-rom/dvd-r/whatever
- case
- power supply
- graphics card (depending on if there's onboard graphics/sound on your mb - ick)
- sound card (see graphics card - ick)
- cables (most cables you'll need are included in whatever you buy)
- nic (or modem if you're in a spot with no broadband or don't have access to a network)
- monitor
- speakers
- mouse
- keyboard
am i missing any necessities, folks?
putting it all together isn't too hard. strangely enough, those manuals help. sometimes, anyway.
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What they all suggested is correct. What sort of system are you looking to build? Uber gaming machine or a solid middle of the road machine that balances performance with price? I just recieved the parts for my new one today from http://www.newegg.com. I went for a middle of the road machine because I don't really need the high performance. I am a casual gamer but not really hardcore.
Case: Enermax Model #FS-501BBS (Black/Silver) ATX 10-Bay Mid-Tower w/ Powerup 300W P-4 Power Supply. Has front USB and lots of ventilation. $49 US
CDRW Drive: Lite On 52X24X52 Model LTR-52246S $50 US
DVD Drive: Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Model SD-M1712 $42 US
Floppy Drive: Sony 1.44MB 3.5 inch internal FDD Drive $8 US
Hard Drive: Western Digital 80GB 7200ROM EIDE drive, 8 MB cache Model # WD800JB-OEM $103 US
System Memory: Kingston KVR333X64C25/256 256 MB 32X64 PC2700 DDR RAM (quantity 2) $33.50 X 2 = $67 US
Motherboard: MSI Motherboard for AMD Processors Model 6570G-020 Chipset: NVIDIA IGP+MCP2-T $135 US
Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2400 /266 FSB Retail model (has heatsink and fan) $156 US
Video Card: ATI OEM Radeon 9500 128MB DDR card $162 US
Total cost $771 US
I will be installing Win XP Pro as the OS
The motherboard has sound, eithernet, and vid. I prefer better vid performance hence why I got the seperate vid card. Most gamers would also want a sound card instead of onboard sound.
It makes a solid system that will handle my moderate level of gaming and general comp usage.
If you do not know what RAM is, how to compare processors, how to match processors to motherboards, etc, then it might be worth either finding out, or just losing the 50 bucks. I spent lots of time learning about different types of RAM, motherboards, hard drives, sound cards, video cards, and such when I bought my first computer years ago. That knowledge, along with basic hardware skills, will allow anyone who is willing to do some reading, to build a system.
Case: Enermax Model #FS-501BBS (Black/Silver) ATX 10-Bay Mid-Tower w/ Powerup 300W P-4 Power Supply. Has front USB and lots of ventilation. $49 US
CDRW Drive: Lite On 52X24X52 Model LTR-52246S $50 US
DVD Drive: Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Model SD-M1712 $42 US
Floppy Drive: Sony 1.44MB 3.5 inch internal FDD Drive $8 US
Hard Drive: Western Digital 80GB 7200ROM EIDE drive, 8 MB cache Model # WD800JB-OEM $103 US
System Memory: Kingston KVR333X64C25/256 256 MB 32X64 PC2700 DDR RAM (quantity 2) $33.50 X 2 = $67 US
Motherboard: MSI Motherboard for AMD Processors Model 6570G-020 Chipset: NVIDIA IGP+MCP2-T $135 US
Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2400 /266 FSB Retail model (has heatsink and fan) $156 US
Video Card: ATI OEM Radeon 9500 128MB DDR card $162 US
Total cost $771 US
I will be installing Win XP Pro as the OS
The motherboard has sound, eithernet, and vid. I prefer better vid performance hence why I got the seperate vid card. Most gamers would also want a sound card instead of onboard sound.
It makes a solid system that will handle my moderate level of gaming and general comp usage.
If you do not know what RAM is, how to compare processors, how to match processors to motherboards, etc, then it might be worth either finding out, or just losing the 50 bucks. I spent lots of time learning about different types of RAM, motherboards, hard drives, sound cards, video cards, and such when I bought my first computer years ago. That knowledge, along with basic hardware skills, will allow anyone who is willing to do some reading, to build a system.
hehe - no worries. i almost forgot power supply. although i still think it would have been funny to see someone go out and buy a whole new system and forget the case.
"dammit, why doesn't this thing look like dad's pc?"
the worst thing is, i knew someone who did that (and no, it wasn't me - i'm not THAT out of it!)
"dammit, why doesn't this thing look like dad's pc?"
the worst thing is, i knew someone who did that (and no, it wasn't me - i'm not THAT out of it!)
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newegg.com is a difficult site to navigate, but they do indeed have some kick ass deals. Although I have never personally bought from them, I have an uncle who does and says that they are reliable and on time with deliveries.
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The list ya got from MissCheetah is a good one, nice solid system, I'd trade the 2400 chip for a 2100b model TB athlon ( the week 302s are working great )and an Epox 8rda+ motherboard ( has better sound on board ). One 512mb of ram stick instead of 2 (pc 3200 while your at it).
Your going to need a good CPU cooling setup I'd recoment a thermalright SLK-800 with a good 80mm fan on it
These can be had at http://www.excaliberpc.com ( you can pick the date your chip was made )
Then take your butt over to http://www.overclockers.com and make that puppy fly with a little research.
My 2100 athlon is running 2335 actual ( not that equivalent crap, would be real close to a 3000+ ) on air cooling
Heck you may even get lucky and get a chip that will clock faster.
I also recomend http://www.anandtech.com for the knowledge of putting it all together, can you turn a screwdriver, plug slot "A" into tab "A", if ya can you can build a PC.
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Good Luck
Charlie
Your going to need a good CPU cooling setup I'd recoment a thermalright SLK-800 with a good 80mm fan on it
These can be had at http://www.excaliberpc.com ( you can pick the date your chip was made )
Then take your butt over to http://www.overclockers.com and make that puppy fly with a little research.
My 2100 athlon is running 2335 actual ( not that equivalent crap, would be real close to a 3000+ ) on air cooling
Heck you may even get lucky and get a chip that will clock faster.
I also recomend http://www.anandtech.com for the knowledge of putting it all together, can you turn a screwdriver, plug slot "A" into tab "A", if ya can you can build a PC.
OC'ing rules
Good Luck
Charlie
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