does anyone not like LotR?

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:32 pm

South Farthing's finest, $100 a joint.

And Grav just remembered, they were laying new sidewalk at her college over the summer, so they now have 'Frodo Lives' and 'JRRT is in Haven Now' graffitti at school.

rawkeye · Post by **rawkeye** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:52 am

another reason why lord of the rings found such a following in the 60's

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:20 am

I believe I heard something about how the Beatles really loved the LotR books when they first came out, and they were toying with the idea of making a movie starring the four band members as Frodo, Sam, Gollum, and Gandalf...

Miroku · Post by **Miroku** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:34 pm

I enjoy the movies, but I haven't been able to stomach the books. To me, they read like history books. If I want something like that, I'll rather read about actual history than detail ad nauseum about stuff that never existed. Not to say they suck. What I have been able to slog through has some good ideas in it, but it's just more detail than I want to dedicate myself to for something that's not real.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:02 pm

Aman, the Beattle's WERE looking into making a version of LotR.

But then they got a letter in the mail from one JRR Tolkien requesting they didn't. They promptly decided that the project was best left alone.

And Ggrav is actually surprised by the number of people who found the books dry. When she picked them up, she couldn't put them down. True, she WAS 13 the first time she read them on her own, but still.

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It might be an English vs American thing.

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Miroku · Post by **Miroku** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:04 pm

I wouldn't say they were dry. I just found them excessively detailed. I know that's one of the things that makes them so great to most people. But for my leisure time, if I want that much detail, I'll read some history or grapple with some sutras. Sometimes when I state that, people will retort that I should just read Harry Potter if I don't want to use that much brainpower. It's not a question of brainpower used during leisure reading, but rather one of how much I'm dedicating to something that isn't real. That's my only real qualm with trying to read them.

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:06 pm

Well, I certainly find it more interesting than learning about, say, the war of 1812.

Accer · Post by **Accer** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:10 pm

It's not so much detail...

Not as much as your average history book anyway.

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:34 pm

And certainly more action-oriented. If you want something really boring, read the Silmarillion. It's worse than the Bible.

Eihger · Post by **Eihger** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:42 pm

a tale of two cities, now that was drawn out

BadMonkey · Post by **BadMonkey** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:10 pm

The problem is, most people don't get as far as the village of Bree,and get put off by the likes of Tom Bombadill, and those fucking songs and poems

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:00 am

I admit there are a few to many of those; especially in the Hobbit.

Miroku · Post by **Miroku** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:15 am

Kind of like the Redwall series. Every time they freaking turn around, they're eating.. and Jacques goes into all of this detail about what they're eating. It's not a story.. it's a damn cookbook.

There's what I'd rather read than LotR.. cookbooks. I am Ming Tsai's bitch.

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:35 am

Yeah, Redwall is alright, except that every book is pretty much the same. And what you mentioned about the endless feast descriptions.

Dragonmaster Zoc · Post by **Dragonmaster Zoc** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:39 am

Consesus around these parts is that Tolkien was an excellent world-builder, but a lousy story-teller; the only reason he had the stories is so as not to let his world go to waste.

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