Can you help me think of this movie?

Last Knight · Post by **Last Knight** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:26 am

[quote="TheDuke";p="246314"]
The problem is that, with Star Wars, it's entirely possible that he's telling the truth.

I mean think about it:
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...you're doing this just to make me cry, aren't you?

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:40 pm

I was joking, but all the same, we'd better hope Lucas doesn't see this thread. It might give him ideas.

I still remember when the title was announced for Episode II.

"'Attack of the Clones'? You're kidding, right? Please say you're just joking. That can't possibly be the title, can it? Can it? ... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

TheDuke · Post by **TheDuke** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:14 pm

Again, I say, Lucas started to go crazy while finishing Return of the Jedi.

It's been downhill since.

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:04 pm

We ought to forget that episode I and II ever existed and turn the whole thing over to Peter Jackson.

Last Knight · Post by **Last Knight** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:31 pm

[quote="Amanalphion";p="246394"]We ought to forget that episode I and II ever existed and turn the whole thing over to Peter Jackson.

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This is, without a doubt, the worst idea I've ever heard.

...he'd just replace all the Ewoks with elves.

Rorschach · Post by **Rorschach** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:34 am

[quote="Last Knight";p="246537"]
This is, without a doubt, the worst idea I've ever heard.
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Ah, wait 'til you've been here a while
We hear more outlandish ideas almost hourly

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:48 pm

I seriously doubt that he would replace Ewoks with Elves. Besides, I'm not saying he should remake the original trilogy; I'm just saying that the task of doing the prequel trilogy should be entrusted to him. After all, he can't hardly do a worse job than Lucas, can he?

Last Knight · Post by **Last Knight** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:18 pm

[quote="Amanalphion";p="246965"]I seriously doubt that he would replace Ewoks with Elves. Besides, I'm not saying he should remake the original trilogy; I'm just saying that the task of doing the prequel trilogy should be entrusted to him. After all, he can't hardly do a worse job than Lucas, can he?

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I'm sure someone once said almost the exact thing when they turned the Batman movies over to Joel Schumacher. "He can't be worse than Tim Burton!"

...and you're right, he wouldn't replace the Ewoks with Elves. The Elves would simply, inexplicably, appear to fight in the final battle.

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:00 am

Oh, come on. It's not like he'll turn everything he touches into LOTR. At least, I hope not, seeing as the next film he's doing is a King Kong remake.

Last Knight · Post by **Last Knight** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 9:40 am

[quote="Amanalphion";p="247177"]Oh, come on. It's not like he'll turn everything he touches into LOTR. At least, I hope not, seeing as the next film he's doing is a King Kong remake.

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In case you missed the gripe, I'm cheesed off about his adding elves to the Battle of Helm's Deep in The Two Towers. I suppose I could make pointed bitches about everyone under four feet tall automatically becoming comic relief, but it just wouldn't be the same.

Psst. The Evil Humans steal King Kong from his island temple... where he's worshipped by Good Nature Loving Elves.

Amanalphion · Post by **Amanalphion** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:51 pm

You're really that uptight because he added a few hundred elves to the battle of Helm's Deep?

Come on, you have to expect that a few things will be changed from the book, and that was really pretty minor. Besides, you should blame the scriptwriters for that, not the director.

BadMonkey · Post by **BadMonkey** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:09 pm

Amanalphion, on the TTT commentry, the writer explains that the reason she added a couple of elves to Helms deep was because they couldn't show;
a) the elves fighting their own battles elsewhere, as that would need a whole other film,
b)Elrond's sons showing up in ROTK, as they would have needed a bunch of establishing scenes.

Oh, and Last Knight, Ive said this before, but I constantly argue that Gimli being comical doesn't detract from his badassedness.

Sir Spankspeople · Post by **Sir Spankspeople** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:21 pm

See, it was a choice between making Gimli comic relief, or having him in the background commenting on things but never really doing anything of importance for the second and third movies...

Last Knight · Post by **Last Knight** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:34 pm

[quote="BadMonkey";p="247436"]Amanalphion, on the TTT commentry, the writer explains that the reason she added a couple of elves to Helms deep was because they couldn't show;
a) the elves fighting their own battles elsewhere, as that would need a whole other film,
b)Elrond's sons showing up in ROTK, as they would have needed a bunch of establishing scenes.

Oh, and Last Knight, Ive said this before, but I constantly argue that Gimli being comical doesn't detract from his badassedness.[/quote]

Yes. Yes, it does. Having to be saved by Legolas every frickin' time in TTT, including almost drowning in a puddle... words fail.

I should probably mention, for the record, that any beef I have with P.J. or the movies is more an irritation than actual anger. I'm not all that psychotic.

Errr.....

BadMonkey · Post by **BadMonkey** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:26 am

For the start, I apologise for the thread-jack
Personally, I love the portrayal of Gimli in TTT.
For a start, he gets all the best lines, (my favourite is when him and aragon sneak out the side door, look at the entrance and see about 250 Uruk, and Gimli goes "Oh c'mon, we can take 'em!")
He is very good natured, when Legolas is ribbing him "Shall I get you a box?" he just laughs.
okay, so he falls face down in a pool of water, but he kicks incredible amounts of arse in the rest of that sequence, and at the end when they retreat to the keep, they have to drag him off.
Remember FOTR? how can the bit in moria:

Let them come! There is one dwarf yet in Moria who still draws breath!

not be considered badass?

Anyway, I always consider Tolkiens dwarves as slightly inherrently comical.
They're so very similar to elves in the fact they're fantastic warriors, craftsmen and artists, but unlike elves they're down to earth (to an extent, they are very proud beings), affable and upfront to the point of crudity, which can come across as brashness, or rudeness, but is very refreshing when compared to the poncy, brilliantly beautifull elves.

Except perhaps for Gollum/Smeagol, Gimli was my favourite character in the books, and in the 3 films it is the same.

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